100 Federal Reserve Note 230A report in Digitimes suggests premium 5G phones will cost about US$100 more than comparable 

The production cost for 5G phones as compared to their 4G predecessors should increase by less than US$80 per unit, including an increase by almost US$50 for 5G modem chips and application processors, and the remaining US$30 for new antennas, PCBs and other materials, the sources indicated.

Digitimes stories like this have usually been accurate in the past. This is much less than the US$200 additional estimated by OPPO CEO Pete Lau.  

Dan Adams of Deloitte estimates about a million 5G phones will ship in 2019.

That's less than 1/10th of 1% of his 1.5 billion estimate for phones worldwide. It's really hard to come up with a figure because it is dependent on marketing decisions.

5G production capability should be higher than that, at least in the second half of the year. TSMC's 7 nm process is currently the only source of the chips, but Samsung is getting on track. TSMC is configuring new EUV (Extreme Ultra-Violet) steppers that should raise capacity significantly later this year.

Telcos have not yet decided how much to charge for the phones. Some may price high as they improve their 5G network. Others may want to grab market share with low prices.

We'll all be watching. 

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Vivo is selling new the iQOO 5G premium quality phone for US$536.

Lei Jun Xiaomi "5G to have explosive growth starting from Q2 2020"5G to have explosive growth starting from Q2 2020" I say sooner

Verizon CEO Ronan Dunne: >1/2 VZ 5G "will approximate to a good 4G service" Midband in "low hundreds" Mbps

CFO John Stephens says AT&T is going to cut capex soon.

Bharti in India has lost 45M customers who did not want to pay the minimum USS2/month. It's shutting down 3G to free some spectrum for 4G. It is cutting capex, dangerous when the 12 gigabytes/month of use continues to rise.

Huawei in 16 days sold 1,000,000 5G Mate 20s.  

China has over 50,000 upgraded base stations and may have more than 200,000 by yearend 2019. The growth is astonishing and about to accelerate. China will have more 5G than North America and Europe combined for several years.

5G phone prices are down to $580 in China from Oppo. Headed under $300 in 2020 and driving demand.

No one believed me when I wrote in May, 90% of Huawei U.S. purchases can be rapidly replaced and that Huawei would survive and thrive. Financial results are in, with 23% growth and increased phone sales. It is spending $17B on research in 2019, up > 10%. 

5G phones spotted from Sharp and Sony

NTT DOCOMO will begin "pre-commercial service Sept 20 with over 100 live bases. Officially, the commercial start is 2020.

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Welcome  1,800,000 Koreans bought 5G in the first four months. The demand is there, and most of the technology works. Meanwhile, the hype is unreal. Time for reporting closer to the truth.

The estimates you hear about 5G costs are wildly exaggerated. Verizon is building the most advanced wireless network while reducing capex. Deutsche Telekom and Orange/France Telecom also confirm they won't raise capex.

Massive MIMO in either 4G or "5G" can increase capacity 3X to 7X, including putting 2.3 GHz to 4.2 GHz to use. Carrier Aggregation, 256 QAM, and other tools double and triple that. Verizon sees cost/bit dropping 40% per year.

Cisco & others see traffic growth slowing to 30%/year or less.  I infer overcapacity almost everywhere.  

Believe it or not, 80+% of 5G (mid-band) for several years will be slower than good 4G, which is more developed.