Sascha distances 5G 2301.096 gigabits. 1.098 gigabits. 999 megabits. 941 megabits. ((Line of sight, < 200 meters) These are actual tests on Verizon 5G with a Samsung Galaxy 10 in Chicago. These are real people on real phones, three of them independent journalists.

10,000's have already ordered the Galaxy 10 5G, even knowing it will be rare to connect to 5G. Consumers want 5G; 400,000 Koreans have bought 5G phones in six weeks.

These results are about twice tests from a month ago and three or four times December tests. Almost everyone doubted high-frequency 5G would make sense. Neville Ray, CTO of T-Mobile, blogged the mmWave would only be a small niche. Craig Moffett, one of the best on Wall Street, wrote that the economics were extremely dubious. 

mmWave still faces major obstacles.

Upload doesn't work yet. Indoor coverage ranges from poor to non-existent, often dropping 70% or completely non-existent. Even a tree can knock out your phone, as can a truck in the street. 

Verizon has often claimed 600-metre reach but these tests were all under 200 metres. The cost of enough cells for wide coverage at 200-metre reach is close to prohibitive. At 600-100 metres, mmWave is far more likely to be profitable. Using data from Craig Moffett, I calculated anything less than 400-600 metres reach would be extremely challenging.

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Sascha Sagan at PCMAG (first two pictures) has consistently done the best coverage of U.S. 5G, He

"got speeds up to 1.17Gbps with a clear line of sight to a cell site 500 feet away. ...  I got 500-675 [feet], depending on the site. But at the moment, that isn't a real 675-foot radius. It's 675 feet, line of sight, with no visual obstacles—no trees, glass, or buildings. ...signal quality improves from 0-200 feet from the site, stays stable until the cell edge (which is generally 500-700 feet) and then just drops. This is the magic of beamforming, Verizon tells me.

Signal quality improves from 0-200 feet from the site, stays stable until the cell edge (which is generally 500-700 feet) and then ... just drops. This is the magic of beamforming, Verizon tells me.

Over 52 tests yesterday, I got an average of 27ms latency, with a minimum of 17ms.

 a 204MB episode of The Flash took more than seven minutes to download, which was ... around 4Mbps?"


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Jessica Dolcourt at CNET writes

"Four hours, seven cell sites and dozens of tests later,  5G data network and Samsung's Galaxy S10 5G achieved what I thought was impossible: they made me excited about 5G again. ..Speeds consistently ranged from 400Mbps up past 1Gbps, almost 2-hour movie (Wine Country) downloaded from Netflix in just over 8 seconds. The second attempt took slightly longer, at 10.4 seconds." 

Chris Welch at The Verge   found "a mind-blowing experience. Going over 700Mbps is very typical ... the 5G signal is basically gone once you lose line of sight. But damn is it fast."  George Koroneos is a Verizon tech who posted on Twitter.



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The 3.3-4.2 spectrum should be shared, not exclusively used by one company, concludes an important U.S. Defense Innovation Board report. If more wireless broadband is important, sharing is of course right because shared networks can yield far more

It does work! Verizon's mmWave tests over a gigabit in the real world. 
The $669 OnePlus 7 Pro outclasses the best Apples and probably the new Galaxy 10 or Huawei P30 Pro. Optical zoom, three cameras, liquid cooling, Qualcomm 855 and more.
Korea at 400,000 5G May 15. Chinese "pre-commercial" signing customers, 60,000-120,000 base stations in 2019, million+ remarkable soon. 
5G phones Huawei Mate 20, Samsung Galaxy 10, ZTE Nubia, LG V50, and OPPO are all on sale at China Unicom. All cost US$1,000 to 1,500 before subsidy. Xiaomi promises US$600.
Natural monopoly? Vodafone & Telecom Italia to share 5G, invite all other companies to join.
Huawei predicts 5G phones for US$200 in 2021, $300 even earlier
NY Times says "5G is dangerous" is a Russian plot. Really.
Althiostar raised US$114 million for a virtual RAN system in the cloud. Rakuten, Japan's new #4, is using it and invested.
Ireland is proposing a US$3 billion subsidy for rural fibre that will be much too expensive. Politics.
Telefonica Brazil has 9M FTTH homes passed and will add 6M more within two years. Adjusted for population, that's more than the U.S. The CEO publicly urged other carriers to raise prices together.
CableLabs and Cisco have developed Low Latency XHaul (LLX) with 5-15 ms latency for 5G backhaul,  U.S. cable is soon to come in very strong in wireless. Details 
Korea Telecom won 100,000 5G customers in the first month. SK & LG added 150,000 more. KT has 37,500 cells. planning 90% of the country by yearend. 
The Chinese giants expect 60,000 to 90,000 5G cells by the end of 2019.
China Telecom's Yang Xin warns, "Real large-scale deployment of operators' edge computing may be after 2021." Customers are hard to find.
Reliance Jio registered 97.5% 4G availability across India in Open Signal testing. Best in world.

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Welcome On Oct 1, 2019 Verizon turned on the first $20B 5G mmWave network with extraordinary hopes. The actual early results have been dismal. Good engineers tell me that will change. Meanwhile, the hype is unreal. Time for reporting closer to the truth.

The estimates you hear about 5G costs are wildly exaggerated. Verizon is building the most advanced wireless network while reducing capex. Deutsche Telekom and Orange/France Telecom also confirm they won't raise capex.

Massive MIMO in either 4G or "5G" can increase capacity 3X to 7X, including putting 2.3 GHz to 4.2 GHz to use. Carrier Aggregation, 256 QAM, and other tools double and triple that. Verizon sees cost/bit dropping 40% per year.

Cisco & others see traffic growth slowing to 30%/year or less.  I infer overcapacity almost everywhere.  

Believe it or not, 80% of 5G (mid-band) for several years will be slower than good 4G, which is more developed.